Tuesday, July 28, 2009

 

Golden gate Lotus Club

Porsche Club (Loma Prieta Region)

Porsche Club (Santa Rosa)

Porsche Club (golden Gate)

AAS

SCCA-Sac chapter

SCCA-SFR

UFO

BMWCCA

 

Runs at

Marina

Marina

Santa Rosa airport

 

Marina,

Stockton

 

Marina

Marina

 

Classing

Marque specific + pax class, penalty for street tires+ fun

 

Marque specific + fun

  

SCCA

SCCA

SCCA+

  

Registration

Online only

Onsite

Onsite

?

Onsite

Onsite

Onsite + pre-reg online

Onsite

Online only

 

Registration line

< 1 minute

< 2 minutes

<2 minutes

?

5 minutes

5 minutes

Long

Long(can be 20 mins)

< 1 minute

 

Punctuality

*****

*****

****

?

****

****

**

*****

***

 

Results

Online, eventually

Online, not always published

    

Online, very fast

Paper within a few weeks. Can take months online.

?

 

Format

All day. 4 run groups, run morning and afternoon

All day.

2 run groups, morning and afternoon

All day. 4 runs groups, morning and afternoon

 

Half day. 4 run groups, either morning or afternoon

 

Half day, either am or pm. Possible fun runs

Half day, either am or pm. Possible fun runs

All day, 4 run groups, mornign and afternoon.

 

Typical number of runs

10

12

10

 

5

4

3-4

4

  

Cost

$53 (inc lunch)

$35

$30

 

$40

$30

$35

$35

  

Have to join something?

No, but being a member of GGLC ($25) allows early registration

No.

No

Join PCA

No

No, but need day membership ($15) or full SCCA membership$85

Yes, $85 to join SCCA

   

Use of time

****

*****

***

       

Quirks

Have to buy lunch

Seem to favor very tight 1st gear

Lot is a little small and dangerous

Loan me a Porsche and I'll tell you

Pax classes only for many cars

Green pointer cones

Tiny lot

 

No pointer cones. Angular tight courses

No coursewalk before drivers meeting

 

Cone penalty

1

1

1

1

2

2

2

1

1

 

Tech

None

Inspector walks paddock

Inspector walks paddock

 

Grid+sticker

 

Rigorous off-grid

On grid

Inspector walks paddock

 

Food

Lunch + bagels + soda

Water + optional lunch

No

?

Genies Weenies sometimes

Genies Weenies

Lunch truck

No

Soda and water + optional lunch

 

Bay Area Autox

 

Golden gate Lotus Club 

Porsche Club (Loma Prieta Region) 

Porsche Club (Santa Rosa) 

Porsche Club (golden Gate) 

AAS 

SCCA-Sac chapter 

SCCA-SFR 

UFO 

BMWCCA 

 

Runs at 

Marina 

Marina 

Santa Rosa airport

 

Marina,  

Stockton 

 

Marina 

Marina 

 

Classing 

Marque specific + pax class, penalty for street tires+ fun 

 

Marque specific + fun 

  

SCCA 

SCCA 

SCCA+ 

  

Registration 

Online only 

Onsite 

Onsite 

? 

Onsite 

Onsite 

Onsite + pre-reg online 

Onsite 

Online only

 

Registration line 

< 1 minute 

< 2 minutes 

<2 minutes 

? 

5 minutes 

5 minutes 

Long 

Long(can be 20 mins) 

< 1 minute 

 

Punctuality 

***** 

***** 

**** 

? 

**** 

**** 

** 

***** 

*** 

 

Results 

Online, eventually 

Online, not always published 

    

Online, very fast 

Paper within a few weeks. Can take months online. 

? 

 

Format 

All day. 4 run groups, run morning and afternoon 

All day.

2 run groups, morning and afternoon 

All day. 4 runs groups, morning and afternoon 

 

Half day. 4 run groups, either morning or afternoon 

 

Half day, either am or pm. Possible fun runs

Half day, either am or pm. Possible fun runs 

All day, 4 run groups, mornign and afternoon. 

 

Run Order

Random/pre-reg

Random

Random

 

By class, rotating

By class, rotating

By class, rotating

By class, rotating

Random pre-reg

 

Grid

Columns

LeMans

Stage and Grid

 

?

?

Columns.

Back in on RG1

Columns.

Back in on RG1

Columns

 

Timing

First 3 count

All count

All count

 

All count

All count

All count

All count

First 2 not counted

 

Typical number of runs

10 

12 

10 

 

5 

4 

3-4 

4 

7

 

Cost 

$53 (inc lunch) 

$35 

$30 

 

$40 

$30 

$35 

$35 

  

Have to join something? 

No, but being a member of GGLC ($25) allows early registration 

No. 

No 

Join PCA 

No 

No, but need day membership ($15) or full SCCA membership$85 

Yes, $85 to join SCCA 

No. Can optionally joinUFO $15.

  

Time efficiency

**** 

***** 

*** 

 

***

 

**

***

***

 

Quirks 

Have to buy lunch 

Seem to favor very tight 1st gear

Lot is a little small and dangerous 

Loan me a Porsche and I'll tell you 

Pax classes only for many cars

Green pointer cones 

Tiny lot 

 

No pointer cones. Angular tight courses 

No coursewalk before drivers meeting 

 

Cone penalty 

1 

1 

1 

1 

2 

2 

2 

1 

1 

 

Tech

None 

Inspector walks paddock 

Inspector walks paddock 

 

Grid+sticker 

 

Rigorous off-grid 

On grid 

Inspector walks paddock 

 

Food 

Lunch + bagels + soda 

Water + optional lunch 

No 

? 

Genies Weenies sometimes 

Genies Weenies 

Lunch truck 

No 

Soda and water + optional lunch